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>I’m not really sure what I would do if in your situation? I mean you’re >already in a clinic having your pain managed and getting along just fine >then all of a sudden they change the game on you without notice and you >either do it or they throw you out cold turkey?

Yeah, that’s pretty much how it worked, I did the cold turkey thing and have the results of that documented to prove what it did to me, that was probably the only smart thing I was able to accomplish while I was sicker than a dog.         But it never ceased to amaze me how these folks would change the rules daily just to change the game. Even the NP’s couldn’t keep up and were frustrated. I remember the day they told me that I had to try a TENS unit. I showed up and the women that gave it to me spent less than ten minutes instructing me on it, she never even finished the lesson on applying the electrodes as she was "late" for an appointment at some other place. She littlerly left me standing there out in the pool area with this bag full of stuff from the manufacture, with the TENS settings written down on a little slip of paper with no explanation what they did. I had to go to the manufactures web site and send them an email asking how to use the thing. But, it got me my refill, and at that point that’s what counted. But this happened every month, always something new to try, and they got really pissed when I told them that I already had six months of PT on the exact same machines they had there, their answer was that they did it different, but these are dedicated machines that only serve one purpose, and after having seen my MRI and other info, I came to the conclusion these things probably were hurting me more than doing any good. I think that’s one of the things that put me on their trouble chart, I didn’t just follow them around and jump into everything they wanted to do. They were determined to get me into a pool as they said that miracles could be worked there. I told them I just wasn’t up for it, and as I was already breaking away from work, and I ran my own company and had employee’s waiting on me, there was no way I could spend a month off up at their offices on the complete other side of town. Yes, the insanity of it all is just about breathtaking.. Doug

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I’m not really sure what I would do if in your situation? I mean you’re already in a clinic having your pain managed and getting along just fine then all of a sudden they change the game on you without notice and you either do it or they throw you out cold turkey? Not only does this bring ethics into play but it also brings into play peoples health, how many people could actually go through cold turkey without serious health problems or side effects? I wonder if anyone has brought the legality of this to the attention of the state medical board? I know for me after all these years of no pt and of being ruled permanently disabled for any type of work at all and having it written in my history that my degeneration will only get worse over time if I were in this clinic I wonder what they would do with me? How would they possibly think something like this could help me when it’s already been charted that PT does more harm to me than good?  Would they throw me on pt anyway or would they throw me off the program?  Either way I would think I would have grounds for a law suite? Trailingvine you’re part of MAPS aren’t you? I’ve spoken with a couple of other people in your same situation and you people need to get together and file a class action suite against them!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Oh,, how I agree with you Shab! > My pain clinic is making PT mandatory for getting any narcotic pain > meds at all, and it has to be at their facility, too. I can’t go to my > own PT close to home as I have always done, but have to travel an > extra 50 miles round trip. My clinic nearby is only a 4 mile round > trip! They are clearly after more money, and nothing else, ad it > really pisses me off…sorry for the vulgar words, but it is a vulgar > situation. And as well as with you, PT has usually left me in more > pain, and actually increased my pain to the point where my meds > weren’t working as well any more, too. I do the stretching I can here > at home, daily, as I always have, so I don’t see any reason to go > again, but it is mandatory, as I said. We shall see how long it lasts, > and how much money they will try to use me to get…probably until my > insurance won’t pay anymore. Then, they will try to get me out of > their program all together. Oh, well, another hoop, huh? > Trailingvine >>I for one don’t know why they put so much stock into pt in the first place. >>When I originally hurt my back in 1991 I underwent months and months of pt >>over the course of 3 years, even when the doctors finally gave in and agreed >>that it was doing more harm then good the wc insurance insisted I keep going >>back? >>PT for me never did any good at all, IMHO the only good pt does is for the >>people who either don’t have the motivation or the knowledge to get up try >>to move around and do some things on their own, I can see anyone having to >>go to get some initial exercises stretches etc then be left to do them on >>their own if they choose to do so and brought back every so often to check >>on their progress if needed, but never forced, especially if they say it’s >>hurting them to do it! >>I cannot see PT being a part of a pain management clinic program especially >>for people who have long since been ruled disabled and reached a medical end >>point other than to put more money in the clinics pocket from insurance >>company and co-pays! Now if the PT was just massage therapy, heat and other >>stimulus I might do it, but mundane stretches with rubber bands and such is >>out of the question and too painful for me! >>> Sue , >>>    That is Good News . I am glad you can now nip any >>> withdrawal in the early stages . I am sorry you are being >>> nagged about the progress of your P.T. That is a scary >>> thought that your pain relief is being held hostage to your >>> getting better . Heck  , if I could get well , I would and >>> so would you . Your recent problem gives new meaning >>> to " saving for a rainy day " ! : ) >>> Peace , >>> Richard >>> > I just got back from the doctor and wanted to let you all know what >>> > happened.  After much indecision I decided to be honest with them and >>> > tell them what happened.  I really didn’t think they would give me the >>> > prescription but I was hoping they might give me something like xanax >>> > or valium to make it easier on me.  My appointment was just with a >>> > nurse so she had to get a nurse practioner to talk to me about the >>> > early renewal.  She talked to me for quite a while about my meds and >>> > my pain and everything and then agreed to write the prescription >>> > provided I took a urine test.  Since I have nothing to hide I went >>> > along with it.  When I was leaving the nurse told me I was very lucky >>> > to have seen that particular NP because she was probably the only one >>> > who would have approved it. >>> > Anyway, I am never making that mistake again.  I was in a hurry so I >>> > grabbed the bottles of meds that I needed to take with me instead of >>> > getting a small bottle and putting my meds in that. >>> > The NP said one thing that bothered me.  She checked to make sure I >>> > was doing my physical therapy and then said the goal was to get me to >>> > decrease my dosage.  I don’t mean to be negative but this is my 6th go >>> > round of PT and it has always made me worse or no change.  I wish I >>> > could get a guarantee from someone that I would get my meds as long as >>> > I need them.  It would go a long way towards decreasing my anxiety. >>> > Right now I am very relieved to be out of pain. >>> > Sue >>> > > Sue , >>> > >    Knowing that you have had problems with your pain >>> > > clinic in the past , you can imagine the drilling you might >>> > > get from them , especially that it takes Oxy forever to >>> > > melt away because of the Matrix . You may even cause >>> > > them to unduly accuse you of taking more than you >>> > > should . While honesty is the desirable way for people >>> > > to interact , you may be better off not saying anything >>> > > and grinding out the 4 days . Yes  , I know how terrible >>> > > are Oxy withdrawals  . I have been there , forced by a >>> > > coward of a Dr. in a hospital to endure it for 3 days . >>> > > Maybe your breakthrough meds can ease you through . >>> > > I would hate to see you lose your future meds because >>> > > your pain clinic is waiting for an excuse to nail you . >>> > > Peace , >>> > > Richard >>> > > > I’ve posted here before about my problems with my pain clinic. I’ve >>> > > > now run into a problem and I could use some fast advice.  I dropped >>my >>> > > > bottle of oxycontin while standing outside.  The ground was wet and >>> > > > mushy.  I thought I picked them all up but it turns out I didn’t.  I >>> > > > ran out yesterday and I’m not scheduled for a refill until Sunday. >>I >>> > > > have an appointment at the clinic tomorrow where I will get my >>refill >>> > > > prescriptions but they post date them to whenever you are due. In >>the >>> > > > contract they made me sign they say they won’t replace lost or >>stolen >>> > > > drugs.  Should I see if I can get an immediate refill or will that >>> > > > make me look too much like a druggie.  I’m dying here.  I’m in pain >>> > > > because I don’t have my meds and I guess this must be what >>withdrawal >>> > > > feels like.  I’m chilled and sweaty and nauseous and have diahrea >>and >>> > > > you name it.  What do you think I should do? >>> > > > Sue > "To live happily is an inward power of the soul." > Marcus Aurelius

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What kind of physiotherapists are these people who make people worse? Why aren’t they personalising the exercise regime to each person’s specific condition? And if that means all the PT consists of is walking to the end of the street and back, then so be it. Sheesh… — Katharine S.   Give us the grace to accept with serenity the things that cannot be changed, courage to change the things which should be changed, and the wisdom to distinguish the one from the other.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Oh,, how I agree with you Shab! > My pain clinic is making PT mandatory for getting any narcotic pain > meds at all, and it has to be at their facility, too. I can’t go to my > own PT close to home as I have always done, but have to travel an > extra 50 miles round trip. My clinic nearby is only a 4 mile round > trip! They are clearly after more money, and nothing else, ad it > really pisses me off…sorry for the vulgar words, but it is a vulgar > situation. And as well as with you, PT has usually left me in more > pain, and actually increased my pain to the point where my meds > weren’t working as well any more, too. I do the stretching I can here > at home, daily, as I always have, so I don’t see any reason to go > again, but it is mandatory, as I said. We shall see how long it lasts, > and how much money they will try to use me to get…probably until my > insurance won’t pay anymore. Then, they will try to get me out of > their program all together. Oh, well, another hoop, huh? > Trailingvine >>I for one don’t know why they put so much stock into pt in the first place. >>When I originally hurt my back in 1991 I underwent months and months of pt >>over the course of 3 years, even when the doctors finally gave in and agreed >>that it was doing more harm then good the wc insurance insisted I keep going >>back? >>PT for me never did any good at all, IMHO the only good pt does is for the >>people who either don’t have the motivation or the knowledge to get up try >>to move around and do some things on their own, I can see anyone having to >>go to get some initial exercises stretches etc then be left to do them on >>their own if they choose to do so and brought back every so often to check >>on their progress if needed, but never forced, especially if they say it’s >>hurting them to do it! >>I cannot see PT being a part of a pain management clinic program especially >>for people who have long since been ruled disabled and reached a medical end >>point other than to put more money in the clinics pocket from insurance >>company and co-pays! Now if the PT was just massage therapy, heat and other >>stimulus I might do it, but mundane stretches with rubber bands and such is >>out of the question and too painful for me! >>> Sue , >>>    That is Good News . I am glad you can now nip any >>> withdrawal in the early stages . I am sorry you are being >>> nagged about the progress of your P.T. That is a scary >>> thought that your pain relief is being held hostage to your >>> getting better . Heck  , if I could get well , I would and >>> so would you . Your recent problem gives new meaning >>> to " saving for a rainy day " ! : ) >>> Peace , >>> Richard >>> > I just got back from the doctor and wanted to let you all know what >>> > happened.  After much indecision I decided to be honest with them and >>> > tell them what happened.  I really didn’t think they would give me the >>> > prescription but I was hoping they might give me something like xanax >>> > or valium to make it easier on me.  My appointment was just with a >>> > nurse so she had to get a nurse practioner to talk to me about the >>> > early renewal.  She talked to me for quite a while about my meds and >>> > my pain and everything and then agreed to write the prescription >>> > provided I took a urine test.  Since I have nothing to hide I went >>> > along with it.  When I was leaving the nurse told me I was very lucky >>> > to have seen that particular NP because she was probably the only one >>> > who would have approved it. >>> > Anyway, I am never making that mistake again.  I was in a hurry so I >>> > grabbed the bottles of meds that I needed to take with me instead of >>> > getting a small bottle and putting my meds in that. >>> > The NP said one thing that bothered me.  She checked to make sure I >>> > was doing my physical therapy and then said the goal was to get me to >>> > decrease my dosage.  I don’t mean to be negative but this is my 6th go >>> > round of PT and it has always made me worse or no change.  I wish I >>> > could get a guarantee from someone that I would get my meds as long as >>> > I need them.  It would go a long way towards decreasing my anxiety. >>> > Right now I am very relieved to be out of pain. >>> > Sue >>> > > Sue , >>> > >    Knowing that you have had problems with your pain >>> > > clinic in the past , you can imagine the drilling you might >>> > > get from them , especially that it takes Oxy forever to >>> > > melt away because of the Matrix . You may even cause >>> > > them to unduly accuse you of taking more than you >>> > > should . While honesty is the desirable way for people >>> > > to interact , you may be better off not saying anything >>> > > and grinding out the 4 days . Yes  , I know how terrible >>> > > are Oxy withdrawals  . I have been there , forced by a >>> > > coward of a Dr. in a hospital to endure it for 3 days . >>> > > Maybe your breakthrough meds can ease you through . >>> > > I would hate to see you lose your future meds because >>> > > your pain clinic is waiting for an excuse to nail you . >>> > > Peace , >>> > > Richard >>> > > > I’ve posted here before about my problems with my pain clinic. I’ve >>> > > > now run into a problem and I could use some fast advice.  I dropped >>my >>> > > > bottle of oxycontin while standing outside.  The ground was wet and >>> > > > mushy.  I thought I picked them all up but it turns out I didn’t.  I >>> > > > ran out yesterday and I’m not scheduled for a refill until Sunday. >>I >>> > > > have an appointment at the clinic tomorrow where I will get my >>refill >>> > > > prescriptions but they post date them to whenever you are due. In >>the >>> > > > contract they made me sign they say they won’t replace lost or >>stolen >>> > > > drugs.  Should I see if I can get an immediate refill or will that >>> > > > make me look too much like a druggie.  I’m dying here.  I’m in pain >>> > > > because I don’t have my meds and I guess this must be what >>withdrawal >>> > > > feels like.  I’m chilled and sweaty and nauseous and have diahrea >>and >>> > > > you name it.  What do you think I should do? >>> > > > Sue > "To live happily is an inward power of the soul." > Marcus Aurelius

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Money hungry ego maniacs who’s sole purpose in life is to make the big green! From my experience there are two kinds of doctors in the world, those who care more about how fast they can get you in and out so the money rolls in and those who want you to receive proper care who also make a good living. I think most of the time doctors start out trying to provide the best care they can for their patients then somewhere along the way they either meet a corrupt doctor or an account who shows them what their income could be if they did this and that and they start seeing green instead of their patients and it all goes down hill from there.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What kind of physiotherapists are these people who make people worse? Why > aren’t they personalising the exercise regime to each person’s specific > condition? And if that means all the PT consists of is walking to the end of > the street and back, then so be it. Sheesh… > — > Katharine S. >   Give us the grace to accept with serenity the things that cannot be > changed, courage to change the things which should be changed, and the > wisdom to distinguish the one from the other. > Oh,, how I agree with you Shab! > My pain clinic is making PT mandatory for getting any narcotic pain > meds at all, and it has to be at their facility, too. I can’t go to my > own PT close to home as I have always done, but have to travel an > extra 50 miles round trip. My clinic nearby is only a 4 mile round > trip! They are clearly after more money, and nothing else, ad it > really pisses me off…sorry for the vulgar words, but it is a vulgar > situation. And as well as with you, PT has usually left me in more > pain, and actually increased my pain to the point where my meds > weren’t working as well any more, too. I do the stretching I can here > at home, daily, as I always have, so I don’t see any reason to go > again, but it is mandatory, as I said. We shall see how long it lasts, > and how much money they will try to use me to get…probably until my > insurance won’t pay anymore. Then, they will try to get me out of > their program all together. Oh, well, another hoop, huh? > Trailingvine > >>I for one don’t know why they put so much stock into pt in the first > place. > >>When I originally hurt my back in 1991 I underwent months and months of > pt > >>over the course of 3 years, even when the doctors finally gave in and > agreed > >>that it was doing more harm then good the wc insurance insisted I keep > going > >>back? > >>PT for me never did any good at all, IMHO the only good pt does is for > the > >>people who either don’t have the motivation or the knowledge to get up > try > >>to move around and do some things on their own, I can see anyone having > to > >>go to get some initial exercises stretches etc then be left to do them > on > >>their own if they choose to do so and brought back every so often to > check > >>on their progress if needed, but never forced, especially if they say > it’s > >>hurting them to do it! > >>I cannot see PT being a part of a pain management clinic program > especially > >>for people who have long since been ruled disabled and reached a medical > end > >>point other than to put more money in the clinics pocket from insurance > >>company and co-pays! Now if the PT was just massage therapy, heat and > other > >>stimulus I might do it, but mundane stretches with rubber bands and such > is > >>out of the question and too painful for me! > >>> Sue , > >>>    That is Good News . I am glad you can now nip any > >>> withdrawal in the early stages . I am sorry you are being > >>> nagged about the progress of your P.T. That is a scary > >>> thought that your pain relief is being held hostage to your > >>> getting better . Heck  , if I could get well , I would and > >>> so would you . Your recent problem gives new meaning > >>> to " saving for a rainy day " ! : ) > >>> Peace , > >>> Richard > >>> > I just got back from the doctor and wanted to let you all know what > >>> > happened.  After much indecision I decided to be honest with them > and > >>> > tell them what happened.  I really didn’t think they would give me > the > >>> > prescription but I was hoping they might give me something like > xanax > >>> > or valium to make it easier on me.  My appointment was just with a > >>> > nurse so she had to get a nurse practioner to talk to me about the > >>> > early renewal.  She talked to me for quite a while about my meds and > >>> > my pain and everything and then agreed to write the prescription > >>> > provided I took a urine test.  Since I have nothing to hide I went > >>> > along with it.  When I was leaving the nurse told me I was very > lucky > >>> > to have seen that particular NP because she was probably the only > one > >>> > who would have approved it. > >>> > Anyway, I am never making that mistake again.  I was in a hurry so I > >>> > grabbed the bottles of meds that I needed to take with me instead of > >>> > getting a small bottle and putting my meds in that. > >>> > The NP said one thing that bothered me.  She checked to make sure I > >>> > was doing my physical therapy and then said the goal was to get me > to > >>> > decrease my dosage.  I don’t mean to be negative but this is my 6th > go > >>> > round of PT and it has always made me worse or no change.  I wish I > >>> > could get a guarantee from someone that I would get my meds as long > as > >>> > I need them.  It would go a long way towards decreasing my anxiety. > >>> > Right now I am very relieved to be out of pain. > >>> > Sue message > >>> > > Sue , > >>> > >    Knowing that you have had problems with your pain > >>> > > clinic in the past , you can imagine the drilling you might > >>> > > get from them , especially that it takes Oxy forever to > >>> > > melt away because of the Matrix . You may even cause > >>> > > them to unduly accuse you of taking more than you > >>> > > should . While honesty is the desirable way for people > >>> > > to interact , you may be better off not saying anything > >>> > > and grinding out the 4 days . Yes  , I know how terrible > >>> > > are Oxy withdrawals  . I have been there , forced by a > >>> > > coward of a Dr. in a hospital to endure it for 3 days . > >>> > > Maybe your breakthrough meds can ease you through . > >>> > > I would hate to see you lose your future meds because > >>> > > your pain clinic is waiting for an excuse to nail you . > >>> > > Peace , > >>> > > Richard > >>> > > > I’ve posted here before about my problems with my pain clinic. > I’ve > >>> > > > now run into a problem and I could use some fast advice.  I > dropped > >>my > >>> > > > bottle of oxycontin while standing outside.  The ground was wet > and > >>> > > > mushy.  I thought I picked them all up but it turns out I > didn’t.  I > >>> > > > ran out yesterday and I’m not scheduled for a refill until > Sunday. > >>I > >>> > > > have an appointment at the clinic tomorrow where I will get my > >>refill > >>> > > > prescriptions but they post date them to whenever you are due. > In > >>the > >>> > > > contract they made me sign they say they won’t replace lost or > >>stolen > >>> > > > drugs.  Should I see if I can get an immediate refill or will > that > >>> > > > make me look too much like a druggie.  I’m dying here.  I’m in > pain > >>> > > > because I don’t have my meds and I guess this must be what > >>withdrawal > >>> > > > feels like.  I’m chilled and sweaty and nauseous and have > diahrea > >>and > >>> > > > you name it.  What do you think I should do? > >>> > > > Sue > "To live happily is an inward power of the soul." > Marcus Aurelius

Response:

I for one don’t know why they put so much stock into pt in the first place. When I originally hurt my back in 1991 I underwent months and months of pt over the course of 3 years, even when the doctors finally gave in and agreed that it was doing more harm then good the wc insurance insisted I keep going back? PT for me never did any good at all, IMHO the only good pt does is for the people who either don’t have the motivation or the knowledge to get up try to move around and do some things on their own, I can see anyone having to go to get some initial exercises stretches etc then be left to do them on their own if they choose to do so and brought back every so often to check on their progress if needed, but never forced, especially if they say it’s hurting them to do it! I cannot see PT being a part of a pain management clinic program especially for people who have long since been ruled disabled and reached a medical end point other than to put more money in the clinics pocket from insurance company and co-pays! Now if the PT was just massage therapy, heat and other stimulus I might do it, but mundane stretches with rubber bands and such is out of the question and too painful for me!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sue , >    That is Good News . I am glad you can now nip any > withdrawal in the early stages . I am sorry you are being > nagged about the progress of your P.T. That is a scary > thought that your pain relief is being held hostage to your > getting better . Heck  , if I could get well , I would and > so would you . Your recent problem gives new meaning > to " saving for a rainy day " ! : ) > Peace , > Richard > I just got back from the doctor and wanted to let you all know what > happened.  After much indecision I decided to be honest with them and > tell them what happened.  I really didn’t think they would give me the > prescription but I was hoping they might give me something like xanax > or valium to make it easier on me.  My appointment was just with a > nurse so she had to get a nurse practioner to talk to me about the > early renewal.  She talked to me for quite a while about my meds and > my pain and everything and then agreed to write the prescription > provided I took a urine test.  Since I have nothing to hide I went > along with it.  When I was leaving the nurse told me I was very lucky > to have seen that particular NP because she was probably the only one > who would have approved it. > Anyway, I am never making that mistake again.  I was in a hurry so I > grabbed the bottles of meds that I needed to take with me instead of > getting a small bottle and putting my meds in that. > The NP said one thing that bothered me.  She checked to make sure I > was doing my physical therapy and then said the goal was to get me to > decrease my dosage.  I don’t mean to be negative but this is my 6th go > round of PT and it has always made me worse or no change.  I wish I > could get a guarantee from someone that I would get my meds as long as > I need them.  It would go a long way towards decreasing my anxiety. > Right now I am very relieved to be out of pain. > Sue > > Sue , > >    Knowing that you have had problems with your pain > > clinic in the past , you can imagine the drilling you might > > get from them , especially that it takes Oxy forever to > > melt away because of the Matrix . You may even cause > > them to unduly accuse you of taking more than you > > should . While honesty is the desirable way for people > > to interact , you may be better off not saying anything > > and grinding out the 4 days . Yes  , I know how terrible > > are Oxy withdrawals  . I have been there , forced by a > > coward of a Dr. in a hospital to endure it for 3 days . > > Maybe your breakthrough meds can ease you through . > > I would hate to see you lose your future meds because > > your pain clinic is waiting for an excuse to nail you . > > Peace , > > Richard > > > I’ve posted here before about my problems with my pain clinic.  I’ve > > > now run into a problem and I could use some fast advice.  I dropped my > > > bottle of oxycontin while standing outside.  The ground was wet and > > > mushy.  I thought I picked them all up but it turns out I didn’t.  I > > > ran out yesterday and I’m not scheduled for a refill until Sunday. I > > > have an appointment at the clinic tomorrow where I will get my refill > > > prescriptions but they post date them to whenever you are due.  In the > > > contract they made me sign they say they won’t replace lost or stolen > > > drugs.  Should I see if I can get an immediate refill or will that > > > make me look too much like a druggie.  I’m dying here.  I’m in pain > > > because I don’t have my meds and I guess this must be what withdrawal > > > feels like.  I’m chilled and sweaty and nauseous and have diahrea and > > > you name it.  What do you think I should do? > > > Sue

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Oh,, how I agree with you Shab! My pain clinic is making PT mandatory for getting any narcotic pain meds at all, and it has to be at their facility, too. I can’t go to my own PT close to home as I have always done, but have to travel an extra 50 miles round trip. My clinic nearby is only a 4 mile round trip! They are clearly after more money, and nothing else, ad it really pisses me off…sorry for the vulgar words, but it is a vulgar situation. And as well as with you, PT has usually left me in more pain, and actually increased my pain to the point where my meds weren’t working as well any more, too. I do the stretching I can here at home, daily, as I always have, so I don’t see any reason to go again, but it is mandatory, as I said. We shall see how long it lasts, and how much money they will try to use me to get…probably until my insurance won’t pay anymore. Then, they will try to get me out of their program all together. Oh, well, another hoop, huh? Trailingvine – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I for one don’t know why they put so much stock into pt in the first place. >When I originally hurt my back in 1991 I underwent months and months of pt >over the course of 3 years, even when the doctors finally gave in and agreed >that it was doing more harm then good the wc insurance insisted I keep going >back? >PT for me never did any good at all, IMHO the only good pt does is for the >people who either don’t have the motivation or the knowledge to get up try >to move around and do some things on their own, I can see anyone having to >go to get some initial exercises stretches etc then be left to do them on >their own if they choose to do so and brought back every so often to check >on their progress if needed, but never forced, especially if they say it’s >hurting them to do it! >I cannot see PT being a part of a pain management clinic program especially >for people who have long since been ruled disabled and reached a medical end >point other than to put more money in the clinics pocket from insurance >company and co-pays! Now if the PT was just massage therapy, heat and other >stimulus I might do it, but mundane stretches with rubber bands and such is >out of the question and too painful for me! >> Sue , >>    That is Good News . I am glad you can now nip any >> withdrawal in the early stages . I am sorry you are being >> nagged about the progress of your P.T. That is a scary >> thought that your pain relief is being held hostage to your >> getting better . Heck  , if I could get well , I would and >> so would you . Your recent problem gives new meaning >> to " saving for a rainy day " ! : ) >> Peace , >> Richard >> > I just got back from the doctor and wanted to let you all know what >> > happened.  After much indecision I decided to be honest with them and >> > tell them what happened.  I really didn’t think they would give me the >> > prescription but I was hoping they might give me something like xanax >> > or valium to make it easier on me.  My appointment was just with a >> > nurse so she had to get a nurse practioner to talk to me about the >> > early renewal.  She talked to me for quite a while about my meds and >> > my pain and everything and then agreed to write the prescription >> > provided I took a urine test.  Since I have nothing to hide I went >> > along with it.  When I was leaving the nurse told me I was very lucky >> > to have seen that particular NP because she was probably the only one >> > who would have approved it. >> > Anyway, I am never making that mistake again.  I was in a hurry so I >> > grabbed the bottles of meds that I needed to take with me instead of >> > getting a small bottle and putting my meds in that. >> > The NP said one thing that bothered me.  She checked to make sure I >> > was doing my physical therapy and then said the goal was to get me to >> > decrease my dosage.  I don’t mean to be negative but this is my 6th go >> > round of PT and it has always made me worse or no change.  I wish I >> > could get a guarantee from someone that I would get my meds as long as >> > I need them.  It would go a long way towards decreasing my anxiety. >> > Right now I am very relieved to be out of pain. >> > Sue >> > > Sue , >> > >    Knowing that you have had problems with your pain >> > > clinic in the past , you can imagine the drilling you might >> > > get from them , especially that it takes Oxy forever to >> > > melt away because of the Matrix . You may even cause >> > > them to unduly accuse you of taking more than you >> > > should . While honesty is the desirable way for people >> > > to interact , you may be better off not saying anything >> > > and grinding out the 4 days . Yes  , I know how terrible >> > > are Oxy withdrawals  . I have been there , forced by a >> > > coward of a Dr. in a hospital to endure it for 3 days . >> > > Maybe your breakthrough meds can ease you through . >> > > I would hate to see you lose your future meds because >> > > your pain clinic is waiting for an excuse to nail you . >> > > Peace , >> > > Richard >> > > > I’ve posted here before about my problems with my pain clinic.  I’ve >> > > > now run into a problem and I could use some fast advice.  I dropped >my >> > > > bottle of oxycontin while standing outside.  The ground was wet and >> > > > mushy.  I thought I picked them all up but it turns out I didn’t.  I >> > > > ran out yesterday and I’m not scheduled for a refill until Sunday. >I >> > > > have an appointment at the clinic tomorrow where I will get my >refill >> > > > prescriptions but they post date them to whenever you are due.  In >the >> > > > contract they made me sign they say they won’t replace lost or >stolen >> > > > drugs.  Should I see if I can get an immediate refill or will that >> > > > make me look too much like a druggie.  I’m dying here.  I’m in pain >> > > > because I don’t have my meds and I guess this must be what >withdrawal >> > > > feels like.  I’m chilled and sweaty and nauseous and have diahrea >and >> > > > you name it.  What do you think I should do? >> > > > Sue

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I’ve posted here before about my problems with my pain clinic.  I’ve >now run into a problem and I could use some fast advice.  I dropped my >bottle of oxycontin while standing outside.  The ground was wet and >mushy.  I thought I picked them all up but it turns out I didn’t.  I >ran out yesterday and I’m not scheduled for a refill until Sunday.  I >have an appointment at the clinic tomorrow where I will get my refill >prescriptions but they post date them to whenever you are due.  In the >contract they made me sign they say they won’t replace lost or stolen >drugs.  Should I see if I can get an immediate refill or will that >make me look too much like a druggie.  I’m dying here.  I’m in pain >because I don’t have my meds and I guess this must be what withdrawal >feels like.  I’m chilled and sweaty and nauseous and have diahrea and >you name it.  What do you think I should do? >Sue

Well, normally if you loose a narcotic for whatever reasons, it helps to have a police report. I know it sounds stupid as they weren’t stolen or anything, but with that report you have a fighting chance of proving that there was an accident with them that you felt was important enough to your life that it should be reported. I was in for my meds at another clinic the other day and a similiar thing happened to a fellow with his script of Xanax, which in the grand scheme of things is a hell of lot worse to go cold turkey off of than any pain drug. They told him at the clinic to go get a police report filled out and to bring it back with him and they would try and get it refilled. But they had to have some documentation that this was not just somebody abusing the stuff, and that is was an accident. I know, again it sounds stupid, but the MD’s are just covering their butt’s on this by having the cops sign off on it. Good luck! Doug

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I just got back from the doctor and wanted to let you all know what happened.  After much indecision I decided to be honest with them and tell them what happened.  I really didn’t think they would give me the prescription but I was hoping they might give me something like xanax or valium to make it easier on me.  My appointment was just with a nurse so she had to get a nurse practioner to talk to me about the early renewal.  She talked to me for quite a while about my meds and my pain and everything and then agreed to write the prescription provided I took a urine test.  Since I have nothing to hide I went along with it.  When I was leaving the nurse told me I was very lucky to have seen that particular NP because she was probably the only one who would have approved it. Anyway, I am never making that mistake again.  I was in a hurry so I grabbed the bottles of meds that I needed to take with me instead of getting a small bottle and putting my meds in that. The NP said one thing that bothered me.  She checked to make sure I was doing my physical therapy and then said the goal was to get me to decrease my dosage.  I don’t mean to be negative but this is my 6th go round of PT and it has always made me worse or no change.  I wish I could get a guarantee from someone that I would get my meds as long as I need them.  It would go a long way towards decreasing my anxiety. Right now I am very relieved to be out of pain. Sue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Sue , >    Knowing that you have had problems with your pain > clinic in the past , you can imagine the drilling you might > get from them , especially that it takes Oxy forever to > melt away because of the Matrix . You may even cause > them to unduly accuse you of taking more than you > should . While honesty is the desirable way for people > to interact , you may be better off not saying anything > and grinding out the 4 days . Yes  , I know how terrible > are Oxy withdrawals  . I have been there , forced by a > coward of a Dr. in a hospital to endure it for 3 days . > Maybe your breakthrough meds can ease you through . > I would hate to see you lose your future meds because > your pain clinic is waiting for an excuse to nail you . > Peace , > Richard > I’ve posted here before about my problems with my pain clinic.  I’ve > now run into a problem and I could use some fast advice.  I dropped my > bottle of oxycontin while standing outside.  The ground was wet and > mushy.  I thought I picked them all up but it turns out I didn’t.  I > ran out yesterday and I’m not scheduled for a refill until Sunday.  I > have an appointment at the clinic tomorrow where I will get my refill > prescriptions but they post date them to whenever you are due.  In the > contract they made me sign they say they won’t replace lost or stolen > drugs.  Should I see if I can get an immediate refill or will that > make me look too much like a druggie.  I’m dying here.  I’m in pain > because I don’t have my meds and I guess this must be what withdrawal > feels like.  I’m chilled and sweaty and nauseous and have diahrea and > you name it.  What do you think I should do? > Sue

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Sue ,    That is Good News . I am glad you can now nip any withdrawal in the early stages . I am sorry you are being nagged about the progress of your P.T. That is a scary thought that your pain relief is being held hostage to your getting better . Heck  , if I could get well , I would and so would you . Your recent problem gives new meaning to " saving for a rainy day " ! : ) Peace , Richard

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I just got back from the doctor and wanted to let you all know what > happened.  After much indecision I decided to be honest with them and > tell them what happened.  I really didn’t think they would give me the > prescription but I was hoping they might give me something like xanax > or valium to make it easier on me.  My appointment was just with a > nurse so she had to get a nurse practioner to talk to me about the > early renewal.  She talked to me for quite a while about my meds and > my pain and everything and then agreed to write the prescription > provided I took a urine test.  Since I have nothing to hide I went > along with it.  When I was leaving the nurse told me I was very lucky > to have seen that particular NP because she was probably the only one > who would have approved it. > Anyway, I am never making that mistake again.  I was in a hurry so I > grabbed the bottles of meds that I needed to take with me instead of > getting a small bottle and putting my meds in that. > The NP said one thing that bothered me.  She checked to make sure I > was doing my physical therapy and then said the goal was to get me to > decrease my dosage.  I don’t mean to be negative but this is my 6th go > round of PT and it has always made me worse or no change.  I wish I > could get a guarantee from someone that I would get my meds as long as > I need them.  It would go a long way towards decreasing my anxiety. > Right now I am very relieved to be out of pain. > Sue

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sue , >    Knowing that you have had problems with your pain > clinic in the past , you can imagine the drilling you might > get from them , especially that it takes Oxy forever to > melt away because of the Matrix . You may even cause > them to unduly accuse you of taking more than you > should . While honesty is the desirable way for people > to interact , you may be better off not saying anything > and grinding out the 4 days . Yes  , I know how terrible > are Oxy withdrawals  . I have been there , forced by a > coward of a Dr. in a hospital to endure it for 3 days . > Maybe your breakthrough meds can ease you through . > I would hate to see you lose your future meds because > your pain clinic is waiting for an excuse to nail you . > Peace , > Richard > > I’ve posted here before about my problems with my pain clinic.  I’ve > > now run into a problem and I could use some fast advice.  I dropped my > > bottle of oxycontin while standing outside.  The ground was wet and > > mushy.  I thought I picked them all up but it turns out I didn’t.  I > > ran out yesterday and I’m not scheduled for a refill until Sunday.  I > > have an appointment at the clinic tomorrow where I will get my refill > > prescriptions but they post date them to whenever you are due.  In the > > contract they made me sign they say they won’t replace lost or stolen > > drugs.  Should I see if I can get an immediate refill or will that > > make me look too much like a druggie.  I’m dying here.  I’m in pain > > because I don’t have my meds and I guess this must be what withdrawal > > feels like.  I’m chilled and sweaty and nauseous and have diahrea and > > you name it.  What do you think I should do? > > Sue

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And do you have any breakthrough meds? They should help. — Katharine S.   A closed mind is like a sealed room – It’s going to get awfully stuffy. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sue I’d tell your doctor first that you dropped them and they got wet and > mushy, have him call in a new script for you. Honesty is always best hon… > Puppy hugz, Gidge > I’ve posted here before about my problems with my pain clinic.  I’ve > now run into a problem and I could use some fast advice.  I dropped my > bottle of oxycontin while standing outside.  The ground was wet and > mushy.  I thought I picked them all up but it turns out I didn’t.  I > ran out yesterday and I’m not scheduled for a refill until Sunday.  I > have an appointment at the clinic tomorrow where I will get my refill > prescriptions but they post date them to whenever you are due.  In the > contract they made me sign they say they won’t replace lost or stolen > drugs.  Should I see if I can get an immediate refill or will that > make me look too much like a druggie.  I’m dying here.  I’m in pain > because I don’t have my meds and I guess this must be what withdrawal > feels like.  I’m chilled and sweaty and nauseous and have diahrea and > you name it.  What do you think I should do? > Sue

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Sue ,    Knowing that you have had problems with your pain clinic in the past , you can imagine the drilling you might get from them , especially that it takes Oxy forever to melt away because of the Matrix . You may even cause them to unduly accuse you of taking more than you should . While honesty is the desirable way for people to interact , you may be better off not saying anything and grinding out the 4 days . Yes  , I know how terrible are Oxy withdrawals  . I have been there , forced by a coward of a Dr. in a hospital to endure it for 3 days . Maybe your breakthrough meds can ease you through . I would hate to see you lose your future meds because your pain clinic is waiting for an excuse to nail you . Peace , Richard

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve posted here before about my problems with my pain clinic.  I’ve > now run into a problem and I could use some fast advice.  I dropped my > bottle of oxycontin while standing outside.  The ground was wet and > mushy.  I thought I picked them all up but it turns out I didn’t.  I > ran out yesterday and I’m not scheduled for a refill until Sunday.  I > have an appointment at the clinic tomorrow where I will get my refill > prescriptions but they post date them to whenever you are due.  In the > contract they made me sign they say they won’t replace lost or stolen > drugs.  Should I see if I can get an immediate refill or will that > make me look too much like a druggie.  I’m dying here.  I’m in pain > because I don’t have my meds and I guess this must be what withdrawal > feels like.  I’m chilled and sweaty and nauseous and have diahrea and > you name it.  What do you think I should do? > Sue

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I’ve posted here before about my problems with my pain clinic.  I’ve now run into a problem and I could use some fast advice.  I dropped my bottle of oxycontin while standing outside.  The ground was wet and mushy.  I thought I picked them all up but it turns out I didn’t.  I ran out yesterday and I’m not scheduled for a refill until Sunday.  I have an appointment at the clinic tomorrow where I will get my refill prescriptions but they post date them to whenever you are due.  In the contract they made me sign they say they won’t replace lost or stolen drugs.  Should I see if I can get an immediate refill or will that make me look too much like a druggie.  I’m dying here.  I’m in pain because I don’t have my meds and I guess this must be what withdrawal feels like.  I’m chilled and sweaty and nauseous and have diahrea and you name it.  What do you think I should do? Sue

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Sue I’d tell your doctor first that you dropped them and they got wet and mushy, have him call in a new script for you. Honesty is always best hon… Puppy hugz, Gidge

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve posted here before about my problems with my pain clinic.  I’ve > now run into a problem and I could use some fast advice.  I dropped my > bottle of oxycontin while standing outside.  The ground was wet and > mushy.  I thought I picked them all up but it turns out I didn’t.  I > ran out yesterday and I’m not scheduled for a refill until Sunday.  I > have an appointment at the clinic tomorrow where I will get my refill > prescriptions but they post date them to whenever you are due.  In the > contract they made me sign they say they won’t replace lost or stolen > drugs.  Should I see if I can get an immediate refill or will that > make me look too much like a druggie.  I’m dying here.  I’m in pain > because I don’t have my meds and I guess this must be what withdrawal > feels like.  I’m chilled and sweaty and nauseous and have diahrea and > you name it.  What do you think I should do? > Sue

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